tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post1559774528257298889..comments2023-09-18T04:45:52.991-07:00Comments on Ask the Scientologist: Scientology Agree/DisagreeJust Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-60047348357293758182009-12-10T02:24:50.493-08:002009-12-10T02:24:50.493-08:00What is needed is the total as-ising of SCN in ord...What is needed is the total as-ising of SCN in order to *understand* it fully (thus being it!) and then recreate it with a NEW name - this would be the job of the world's best top level auditors - and keep away any "staff" (groups, respectively 3rd dynamic banks). Only those would dare to work outside the org even and still knowing they serve the true blueprint!<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Believe it or succumb.<br />This process will be needed again after some decades because it will be infiltrated again - and recreated again - and infiltrated again...<br /><br />This only ends up whith total as-ising of MEST.<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Thetans NEVER give ip - so, what's the problem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-2137015861224734392009-12-10T02:16:30.043-08:002009-12-10T02:16:30.043-08:00Hi Bill - very funny to read.
"forbidden&quo...Hi Bill - very funny to read.<br /><br />"forbidden" in SCN terms is not-ising.<br /><br />And this never works nor leads anywhere - it's bulding up ridges.<br /><br />Have fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-2753678024441106102009-05-22T22:13:39.401-07:002009-05-22T22:13:39.401-07:00Thanks Milly!Thanks Milly!Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-5871164831499972582009-05-22T17:16:45.836-07:002009-05-22T17:16:45.836-07:00I added a couple of comments to direct people back...I added a couple of comments to direct people back to this blog. I am indignant on your behalf that they did not include the links in the info section. <br /><br />The words are wise. The man is Just Bill.Anonomomilynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-16085867385198052702009-05-22T10:02:33.223-07:002009-05-22T10:02:33.223-07:00Thanks Luis,
I like it. In case anyone wants to ...Thanks Luis,<br /><br />I like it. In case anyone wants to see the original articles he is reading, he's combined most of <A HREF="http://askthescientologist.blogspot.com/2008/04/if-scientology-worked.html" REL="nofollow">If Scientology Worked</A> and <A HREF="http://askthescientologist.blogspot.com/2008/12/scientology-why-doesnt-it-work.html" REL="nofollow">Scientology: Why Doesn't It Work?</A> -- and has done it quite nicely, too.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-79685000155074387532009-05-22T09:28:13.447-07:002009-05-22T09:28:13.447-07:00Hi Just Bill.
YOu are mentioned today in a You Tu...Hi Just Bill.<br /><br />YOu are mentioned today in a You Tube video: <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hF_ND_kRzU<br /><br />Regards,<br />LuisUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00981313239740182917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-74174024298921755182009-05-13T07:59:00.000-07:002009-05-13T07:59:00.000-07:00@CR
Good points. As you say, apparently, the tech...@CR<br /><br />Good points. As you say, apparently, the technology requires such an exact application that <I>no one</I> has or will <I>ever</I> be able to make it work.<br /><br />"Scientology works". Yeah, sure it does. When does <I>that</I> start?Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-1458640900728736462009-05-13T07:21:00.000-07:002009-05-13T07:21:00.000-07:00Oh the irony. Good post. I'll have to see if I hav...Oh the irony. Good post. I'll have to see if I have the Philadelphia Doctorate Courses and have a listen.<br /><br />I also wonder if that first commenter was an actual Scientologist, but who knows.<br /><br />Silly, isn't it? Scientology works, but only if you do it <I>just</I> right. Pretty high failure rate if that's true since humans are apt to error. Also, it means it's not very useful since it apparently requires exact precision to work and...again, no one is perfect.<br /><br />So, in the end how many people have actually got Scientology to work with 100% effectiveness? Not many I should think. Scientology, for what it is (self-help pseudo-psychology, not rocket science), is deeply flawed and useless if it is rendered ineffective with the smallest error. Tools and technologies that require such precision generally have a narrow purpose and application, but Scientology is supposed to have very broad applications, if so then it should be resistant to human error and work even when not applied 100% correctly. Or am I being too optimistic?<br /><br />CR<br /><br />P.S. Yeah, I miss those debates you used to get in, too. They were interesting reading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-42880804219855008202009-05-12T17:48:00.000-07:002009-05-12T17:48:00.000-07:00Yes, I do love a good debate, but those have been ...Yes, I <I>do</I> love a good debate, but those have been getting very sparse lately.<br /><br />The problem is that good debating requires intelligence -- and all the intelligent Scientologists have <I>seen</I> what is going on and have left (or are "sitting on their hands" waiting for <I>someone</I> to fix things).<br /><br />The less observant and less intelligent Scientologists just can't hold up their end of a debate. I really did enjoy those earlier back-and-forth arguments.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-48130886803109818532009-05-12T17:13:00.000-07:002009-05-12T17:13:00.000-07:00I hope our anonymous scientologist friend returns....I hope our anonymous scientologist friend returns...but they rarely do, when faced with the irrefutable truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-82312428046412191842009-05-11T18:20:00.000-07:002009-05-11T18:20:00.000-07:00Um, Anonymous? Miscavige has been altering Hubbard...Um, Anonymous? Miscavige has been altering Hubbard's tech for years. You don't actually buy Miscavige's claim that he somehow managed to spot thousands of 'transcription errors' that Hubbard himself missed do you? <br /><br />Preserving the tech indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-71068879961035079172009-05-11T17:44:00.000-07:002009-05-11T17:44:00.000-07:00Oh, and by the way, that "preserving the tech so t...Oh, and by the way, that "preserving the tech so that it remains 100% pure" thing? You already lost that battle.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-87594673504939965292009-05-11T17:26:00.000-07:002009-05-11T17:26:00.000-07:00Actually, I do get it. You don't.
This is a very...Actually, I do get it. You don't.<br /><br />This is a very important point that Scientologists have failed to grasp: Challenging "with ferocity" reports of unworkability, and effectively silencing such reports <I>is not the same</I> as actually having a 100% workable technology. Just because Scientology suppresses 100% of the reports of it <I>not</I> working does not mean it <I>does</I> work.<br /><br />And ensuring that all Scientologists disagreements about Scientology are completely suppressed does not, magically, make Scientology valid.<br /><br />The test of effectiveness isn't whether the Church of Scientology <I>says</I> it is effective or not. The test of effectiveness isn't whether the Church of Scientology can silence all negative reports or not. The only test of effectiveness is -- does it produce the promised results. Well, Scientology <I>does not</I> produce <I>any</I> of its promised results.<br /><br />Silencing all complaints does not change that.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-12332044224703515932009-05-11T17:25:00.000-07:002009-05-11T17:25:00.000-07:00You just don't get it. Ron gave us the technology...You just don't get it. Ron gave us the technology to really help people. All your arguments are invalid because Scientology really DOES work when properly applied! If one has such an effective technology, one does not mess with it.<br /><br />That's what this is all about, preserving the tech so that it remains 100% pure and 100% effective. This isn't about some secret conspiracy to hypnotize or control people, it's only about preserving the tech and helping people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com