tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post1885518344236505358..comments2023-09-18T04:45:52.991-07:00Comments on Ask the Scientologist: Scientology's New BuildingsJust Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-74506723952039015202010-09-13T15:32:14.559-07:002010-09-13T15:32:14.559-07:00Thanks for clearing that up for me :)Thanks for clearing that up for me :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-26912286632691130012010-09-12T17:44:28.288-07:002010-09-12T17:44:28.288-07:00Re: Travolta
Just to make this clear. Miscavige ...Re: Travolta<br /><br />Just to make this clear. Miscavige would watch Cruise's "Top Gun" and "Mission Impossible" movies, again and again, and just ache to <i>be</i> Tom Cruise.<br /><br />Miscavige would <i>not</i> watch "Hairspray". Nor has he <i>any</i> desire to be John Travolta.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-62794018507051624782010-09-12T13:08:00.366-07:002010-09-12T13:08:00.366-07:00Re: Travolta
Oh, yes. Miscavige hates Travolta, ...Re: Travolta<br /><br />Oh, yes. Miscavige <i>hates</i> Travolta, has nothing good to say about him. Reasons? Does Miscavige need any reasons? Travolta doesn't jump when Miscavige says so. Travolta doesn't spout the party line when ordered.<br /><br />Miscavige knows John is valuable to church PR, so he "makes nice" to his face, but behind his back... it's very, very bad.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-57888342177498773472010-09-12T09:58:29.313-07:002010-09-12T09:58:29.313-07:00@Just Bill
Re: Miscavige really hates Travolta
H...@Just Bill<br /><br />Re: Miscavige really hates Travolta<br /><br />How do you know this? Any particular reason why he would hate him? I thought he was poster boy just like Tom Cruise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-62404930204158058982010-07-27T13:27:06.680-07:002010-07-27T13:27:06.680-07:00Speaking of "new buildings" back when th...Speaking of "new buildings" back when this post was new (2008), Scientology of San Diego bought the old Coleman College complex in La Mesa (one of the towns that borders SD to the East.) They did so to move from their 4th Street digs in SD to a more private area on Fairlane Dr. Since then NOTHING has happened; the La Mesa building rots while the Co$ still has a for sale sign on their SD building. They have a guy living illegally (?) on the property in an `80s trailer, but otherwise it's plywood on the windows and the occasional paint blob on the wall to cover graffiti. Only a goof like Hubbard could design a cult that has become a negative version of a holding company; all their properties lose value and are sold at a loss.<br /><br />- mr. mikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-83852459909117363512010-07-20T20:50:07.803-07:002010-07-20T20:50:07.803-07:00I am very happy that I discovered your site. Two ...I am very happy that I discovered your site. Two days ago I decided, with the help of a staff member at FCDC, that I am finished with the cos.<br /><br />I definitely need to get my "funds on account back" on prindiple.<br /><br />Thanks for the advice.<br /><br />I am wondering, what is the reason for annonomous names. Is there something to fear?<br /><br />Thanks,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-81958522390422091212010-01-16T08:41:26.498-08:002010-01-16T08:41:26.498-08:00Re: Travolta
Yes, most people who are on staff ar...Re: Travolta<br /><br />Yes, most people who are on staff are good, caring people -- but, as you said, brainwashed. While they <i>know</i> things are wrong, they are not allowed to look and figure it out.<br /><br />As for Travolta, I'm not sure you'll ever hear him say anything publicly. The church has so many ways of controlling its parishioners, including "handlers" for their celebrities, family and friend disconnection, disclosure of their confessional secrets and so on, it is usually that the person just stops participating, but says nothing. And I think that describes Travolta.<br /><br />By the way, Miscavige really <i>hates</i> Travolta.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-13990159131266361672010-01-16T07:45:24.585-08:002010-01-16T07:45:24.585-08:00The church (if you can call it that) is so messed ...The church (if you can call it that) is so messed up. I think most of the people who are on staff are nice caring people who want to do good. However they are so brainwashed they can not see one foot ahead themselves. It the hire ups ( COB) who are the really evil ones. <br />What I would like to see happen is Travolta come out & denounce the CO$. I do not think he's that involved anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-65648965297587849412009-03-23T15:55:00.000-07:002009-03-23T15:55:00.000-07:00I heard the Valley Org recently acquired the money...I heard the Valley Org recently acquired the money for an Ideal Org, but the lease back provisions will be in place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-17349675857432663202008-09-14T18:14:00.000-07:002008-09-14T18:14:00.000-07:00It gets far worse. In Clearwater the 170,000 squar...It gets far worse. In Clearwater the 170,000 square foot Super Power building (or aptly named "SP building) is still unfinished and empty after ten years of construction. It was to be completed in 2003, then 2007 at around three times it's projected 24 million dollar cost. <BR/><BR/>This monstrosity sits in prime real estate right in the middle of downtown Clearwater. It's a living monument to the greed and corruption of the leaders of Scientology and the duplicity of it's members. Like the organization itself. It is a blank facade, impressive on the outside, hollow on the inside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-2230157777018632952008-08-25T18:54:00.000-07:002008-08-25T18:54:00.000-07:00All the smaller curches are under control of RTC. ...All the smaller curches are under control of RTC.<BR/><BR/> Wollersheims suite was finally settled suddenly when docs came out showing thatt the Sea Org at any time can take over any of the churches or any other scientology organization. MsCavvige is the Top Sea org commander, and there fore can take over anything with the Sea Org. The deal with the IRS was that all these Scientology entities are seperate, non-profit entites.<BR/><BR/> Obviously if one man can direct the Sea Org to come in and take over they are not seperate entities. They buy a building, go bankrupt keeping it up, Sea Org takes over and sells the building, sending the money to RTC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-76966650644423857932008-08-19T17:36:00.000-07:002008-08-19T17:36:00.000-07:00Hmmm. Interesting bit of research.I don't know th...Hmmm. Interesting bit of research.<BR/><BR/>I don't know the legal details, but I do know that, when buildings are purchased, they <I>are</I> considered "owned by Int. Landlord" and the local churches pay rent to Int. Landlord. This has been verified by people who were directly involved.<BR/><BR/>Now, if this is wrapped in some legal fiction, I don't know. It may be like the "signed, undated resignations" that Miscavige requires all upper execs to sign when they take post. It may be that the Int. Landlord has all the papers for the property transfer all signed but undated. Or it may be something else.<BR/><BR/>If this is the new "Ideal" building, they may be waiting until renovations are complete.<BR/><BR/>I <I>do</I> know that the local church pays rent on "their" building to Int Management, and they have no control over its sale. If Int Landlord decided to sell it, it <I>would</I> sell and Int Landlord would get the money.<BR/><BR/>If anyone has more information about the legal trickery involved, I'd appreciate more insight.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-67575068719030130302008-08-19T16:33:00.000-07:002008-08-19T16:33:00.000-07:00I looked at the Statutory Warranty Deed online. It...I looked at the Statutory Warranty Deed online. It's to the Church of Scientology of Washington State, not to International Management. It doesn't look like Int owns the new building.<BR/><BR/>Here's the link to the PDF file.<BR/><BR/>http://146.129.54.93:8193/imgcache/OPR20050217001150-1-3.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-43172439217063820372008-08-19T12:34:00.000-07:002008-08-19T12:34:00.000-07:00I searched the King County Records online regardin...I searched the King County Records online regarding the building for the Seattle Org. I was unable to pull up the documents because they either weren't scanned or because there were errors.<BR/><BR/>But I found five different documents. Three documents (release or satisfaction of lien, warranty deed and deed of trust) were under the name "Church of Scientology" and the other two documents (appointment of successor trustee and full reconveyance) were under the name "Church of Scientology Washington State."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-66197542910789546782008-07-17T09:01:00.000-07:002008-07-17T09:01:00.000-07:00Looks like Nashville is on the "illusion of expans...Looks like Nashville is on the "illusion of expansion by real estate acquisition" list:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/stories/2008/06/23/daily61.html" REL="nofollow">http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/stories/2008/06/23/daily61.html </A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=61143" REL="nofollow">http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=61143 </A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-80658898378681173122008-07-11T20:43:00.000-07:002008-07-11T20:43:00.000-07:00Hey Kim & Randy -- I got my money back. It took 6+...Hey Kim & Randy -- I got my money back. It took 6+ months of persistence and never losing my temper. I kept meticulous records of every single interaction - date, time, person & details interaction. This came in handy at time to point out contradictions. I called the Claims Verification Board in California, threatened (politely) to "escalate" the matter, etc. You MUST keep pushing. Do your research with Google. Good luck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-76453124271163308932008-07-09T22:36:00.000-07:002008-07-09T22:36:00.000-07:00Hmmm. That is the gimmick that Miscavige uses to ...Hmmm. That <I>is</I> the gimmick that Miscavige uses to raise the money. Once David Miscavige <I>has</I> the new buildings <I>and</I> the sooper-dooper video display for the public -- and has moved all the Suppressive staff members off the lines, people, he is <I>certain</I>, will flood in. In his mind, the "new buildings" with the "auto-brainwash videos" will, as you put it, "pull in" everybody.<BR/><BR/>It's a way to raise money, but this exact concept, already in place in many orgs, just doesn't work. Just like every other Miscavige idea.<BR/><BR/>And, like every other Miscavige failure, <I>it's not his fault!</I> LOL!Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-61292356758908300852008-07-09T21:13:00.000-07:002008-07-09T21:13:00.000-07:00I have one little thing to add here. The Fluffy Li...I have one little thing to add here. The Fluffy Little Tail, in addition to making real estate investments, might be trying to 'pull in' actual expansion.<BR/><BR/>Its the same concept as when OSA sends their little Black Knights(always triumph!) to pose as disinterested third parties who support Scientology. They're trying to create an 'apparency' of expansion, to sway wog 'agreement' which then creates that 'reality.'<BR/><BR/>Its alot like 'The Secret.'<BR/><BR/>http://www.thesecret.tv/<BR/><BR/>-Red Pill on TopixAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-63411184890614957632008-07-05T16:11:00.000-07:002008-07-05T16:11:00.000-07:00It is an amazing scam. The details of it are not ...It <I>is</I> an amazing scam. The details of it are <I>not</I> hidden. City or county records list property owners. The other details are not secret, but I don't know of any place where it's all put together in one document, other than this post.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-84958295092932659862008-07-04T14:31:00.000-07:002008-07-04T14:31:00.000-07:00This scam - if real - is the most diabolical thing...This scam - if real - is the most diabolical thing I have ever read. Do you have any documentation people can read or that could be sent to the press?Jimboronihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04152844132602564399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-36099257247325131262008-05-31T08:56:00.000-07:002008-05-31T08:56:00.000-07:00This is true. You can get a lawyer to send a dema...This is true. You can get a lawyer to send a demand letter for a quite small fee. Google "Scientology repayment" for information and ideas.<BR/><BR/>You do NOT have to jump through the Scientology hoops, those are unnecessary and are NOT there for YOUR benefit.<BR/><BR/>Just demand your money back.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-59903346702249122122008-05-30T23:19:00.000-07:002008-05-30T23:19:00.000-07:00I pre-paid for some services and then did a lot of...I pre-paid for some services and then did a lot of research online which was enough to open my eyes to the GREED of Scientology. I went through all the paperwork and interviews to get my money back and I still haven't seen it. That was back in December. That they are legally required to return money doesn't mean they will unless forced in a legal way.Kim, Randy, Hannah, Cole and Riohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07125272486550193227noreply@blogger.com