tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post6102664994519787668..comments2023-09-18T04:45:52.991-07:00Comments on Ask the Scientologist: Why Do Scientologists Believe?Just Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-54780811030564568152013-05-02T17:03:19.577-07:002013-05-02T17:03:19.577-07:00This is sad. This is a cult. Open your eyes, peopl...This is sad. This is a cult. Open your eyes, people. <br /><br />We offer the silent, their missing voice.<br />The powerless, their forgotten strength. <br />The oppressed, their lost expression. <br />The isolated, their missing con solation. <br />The imprisoned, their freedom.<br />And for the disconnected, the opportunity to Reconnect.<br />Join us, and, if you wish, demand your human rights.<br />The leadership of Scientology knows: <br />We do not forgive.<br />We do not forget.<br />We will not stop.<br />We are, the Legion of Legions.<br />Expect us.<br />Expect all of us.<br />Forever. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-81012858915591516602012-07-13T23:56:48.838-07:002012-07-13T23:56:48.838-07:00This is a new novel in the making. This is sad. ...This is a new novel in the making. This is sad. If you don't believe in something you are likely to believe in anything regardless of how crazy it is. It is truly amazing how the brain works and how a suggestion can be believed as truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-4881738818618319192012-07-10T22:58:45.637-07:002012-07-10T22:58:45.637-07:00The reason people get caught up in "religion&...The reason people get caught up in "religion" so to speak is to better their lives and improve their lot in life. Basically they are quite vulnerable to begin with. In the case of Scientologists, for example famous people, their desire to improve themselves becomes almost an obsession. My opinion is once you become part of a "religion" you form certain friendships and bonds with individuals and they become like family to the individual. To leave the organization would cause quite a bit of grief for the individual plus the riligious organization. It becomes almost a relationship of necessity due to the attention garnered by being a member. Basically you have to support your decision regardless how difficult your choice has made your life. Once you have been involved for a number of years you will look ridiculous if you leave and it will affect people's opionions of you. It becomes a catch 22 damned if you do and damned if you don't. There are pros and cons to every religion and unfortunately once you have become affiliated you will lose many ties if you leave. It is unfortunate but true. Leaving is like banishment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-51118905177744277912012-07-08T20:19:40.029-07:002012-07-08T20:19:40.029-07:00Yes ; agree with the person above! I feel the same...Yes ; agree with the person above! I feel the same way about all religons they are all cults since the begining of humanity!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-72587977190789764492012-07-02T15:03:28.611-07:002012-07-02T15:03:28.611-07:00They can go back in time and get their money back ...They can go back in time and get their money back from the Church of Scientology.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-77223788122160310142012-07-02T05:36:10.843-07:002012-07-02T05:36:10.843-07:00Oh please! People need to get a life and stop this...Oh please! People need to get a life and stop this delusional nonsense. Can't people just live their lives, loving their friends and families, work for a living and enjoy leisure activities without this BS? No one needs this brainwashing indoctrination. No one needs to be affiliated to this cult, which enslaves people to a mentality and beliefs that are made up by a crazy man by the name of Hubbard. Wake up and smell the coffee everyone1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-70267179123027519132011-05-07T00:22:03.930-07:002011-05-07T00:22:03.930-07:00Awesome post. Thank you. I would like to add ano...Awesome post. Thank you. I would like to add another reason Scientologists believe. Personal Integrity. <br />From personal experience I can say that if I attested that I had gained a certain ability, then to admit later to myself that I hadn't, well then, doesn't that make me a liar. And I didn't think of myself as a liar so I tried really, really hard to convince myself that I had gained the ability. It is such a mind fuck.Squash Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08107266262858228787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-81894761561902814102011-02-17T05:33:22.559-08:002011-02-17T05:33:22.559-08:00I have a friend whose father just spent all their ...I have a friend whose father just spent all their money on a time machine....why would they need this?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01700921701615491418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-14684780924636898212010-11-20T07:59:35.796-08:002010-11-20T07:59:35.796-08:00Re: Get people in.
They sell a book filled with a...Re: Get people in.<br /><br />They sell a book filled with amazing promises. They use their infamous "Stress Test", or some other trick, to get you to talk about your problems, then they <i>always</i> say, "Scientology can help you with that!"<br /><br />And some people actually <i>believe</i> them.<br /><br />There is no prayer in Scientology. There is a <i>lot</i> of fund-raising, they take courses, they get auditing. No prayer and absolutely no "church-like" activities.<br /><br />As for Xenu, it is <i>confidential</i> and Scientologists are told that hearing "OT materials" before you've been "properly prepared" <i>will kill you</i>.<br /><br />So it actually is incorrect to say "This is what Scientologist believe" because very, very few Scientologists even <i>know</i> about it. The average Scientologist will, quite honestly, deny the story because <i>they've</i> never heard it.<br /><br />The few Scientologists who have done OT III will <i>also</i> deny it, because they've <i>promised</i> to keep it secret -- so they cannot confirm it.<br /><br />It is only those who have left Scientology who can speak freely.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-34637318268640103872010-11-20T01:48:11.576-08:002010-11-20T01:48:11.576-08:00Ok, but How do they get people in the beginning???...Ok, but How do they get people in the beginning??? Say they started talking to me? How do they get me?<br />And what do they do at the churches? Like what to they pray to and stuff?<br />And why do they deny the Xenu Story??? When so many people say thats what they believe in?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-48733320067702653152010-11-07T15:22:56.327-08:002010-11-07T15:22:56.327-08:00well I think this is a aweful thing for people to ...well I think this is a aweful thing for people to fall for and i Believe its kinda weird how all these famous people got to the top using the grace of God and then they waste their earnings they made by praying to God for, on dumb allien stories I hate that this has happened to actors that I have grown up loving to watch act over and over and now I cant even look at because they choose to be in Scientology it has done something to them they look like robots its weird. And very sad and to me it makes them not look that smart after just finding out for myself what Scientology is about I even had a kneen since that it was not a good thing when I first heard about it. I cant grasp on the fact how these smart people allowed themselfs to be manipulated in to thinking this is the way to go. Its very sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-90217304709646380182009-03-13T11:07:00.000-07:002009-03-13T11:07:00.000-07:00Further on "Scientologists forbidden to talk about...Further on "Scientologists forbidden to talk about sessions or their case".<BR/><BR/>As I said, Scientologists are <I>not</I> forbidden from talking about their "wins", nor are they forbidden from <I>using</I> their "new abilities".<BR/><BR/>But they do not <I>ever</I> demonstrate these alleged abilities. They do not <I>ever</I> talk about what they've done with their alleged abilities.<BR/><BR/>Simply and only because <I>they don't have them</I>.<BR/><BR/><I>This</I> is the true, most-secret-of-secrets of Scientology. <I>This</I> is <I>the</I> secret <I>no one</I> must ever know: The promised results of Scientology <I>never</I> occur.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-47807748852061834402009-03-11T16:32:00.000-07:002009-03-11T16:32:00.000-07:00I remember when I finished OT III, I had a feeling...I remember when I finished OT III, I had a feeling of euphoria, a feeling of empowerment. I believed that as I "got used to my OT powers" I would be able to leave my body at will, see things remote from my body, communicate to others at a distance and all of the other things we think of as "OT abilities." I would experiment with trying to leave my body and perceive things remotely and so on. But nothing happened. Pretty soon life went back to normal, and I thought, oh, well, I guess I'll get that on my next level. But I rememberd that feeling of euphoria and I would tell people I had "fantastic wins" on OT III. But I couldn't have put my finger on any specific abilities gained. I had the same abilities I had before. <BR/><BR/>I see this in the "OT VIII Successes" the Church puts out. A lot of "I feel great," "I feel powerful," "I'm like - zoom!" and so on ad nauseum, but no real specifics. <BR/><BR/>And Scientology "OTs" are not demonstrably any different from anyone else. <BR/><BR/>People don't even talk about "OT Abilities" any more, like we used to in the 1970s. It's a dead issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-81240414639014950602009-03-11T10:56:00.000-07:002009-03-11T10:56:00.000-07:00Scientologists are forbidden from "talking about t...Scientologists are forbidden from "talking about their case". All sessions are supposed to be confidential. Scientologists may talk vaguely about their "wins" but are not supposed to talk about anything that happened in session, not what the auditor said, not what they thought or said, nothing. It is forbidden. To do so is a crime and would be punished.<BR/><BR/>Punishment means taken off of auditing or courses, isolated from other Scientologists while "doing conditions", having to pay for and do expensive and tedious "security check" auditing to discover all their other crimes, and so forth.<BR/><BR/>Likewise, "false attest" is a crime with similar punishments, or worse.<BR/><BR/>If the Scientologist does any of this a second time, they could very well be expelled from the church.<BR/><BR/>The penalties are severe from a Scientologist's point of view, so they don't talk, and they believe-believe-believe so that their attest "wasn't false".Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-18557580309356055602009-03-11T10:45:00.000-07:002009-03-11T10:45:00.000-07:00Could you explain more about why Scientologists ar...Could you explain more about why Scientologists aren't allowed to talk to each other about? And what sort of punishment would a "false attest" get a Scientologist?<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-68244131220762420372009-03-11T10:02:00.000-07:002009-03-11T10:02:00.000-07:00Yes, some sessions are a pleasure to be done with....Yes, some sessions are a pleasure to be done with. I've been there.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-40849364634755420312009-03-11T09:24:00.000-07:002009-03-11T09:24:00.000-07:00Interesting. I've had a lot of auditing myself, an...Interesting. I've had a lot of auditing myself, and while I can't speak for others, often my end-of-session euphoria was just the relief that it was over with! However I have also experienced the temporary feel-good you described. And yes, it is a very temporary experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com