tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post3500452334494982467..comments2023-09-18T04:45:52.991-07:00Comments on Ask the Scientologist: The Importance of Dianetics in ScientologyJust Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-6420755669111392462009-03-10T18:18:00.000-07:002009-03-10T18:18:00.000-07:00Thanks omnom,The history of Hubbard, Dianetics and...Thanks omnom,<BR/><BR/>The history of Hubbard, Dianetics and Scientology is indeed convoluted and strange.<BR/><BR/>According to several sources, the copyrights of much of Dianetics and Scientology materials have been permanently lost due to carelessness. Much of the material, including many of the books, could be legally published in their original form by anyone.<BR/><BR/>For more strangeness, check out the <A HREF="http://ca-da.org/" REL="nofollow">California Association of Dianetics Auditors</A>, a very legal group that the Church of Scientology <I>hates</I>. They existed <I>before</I> the church and have never been affiliated with it.<BR/><BR/>I guess you could say that technically they are <I>more</I> legal than the Church of Scientology.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-79120362051717108352009-03-10T17:56:00.000-07:002009-03-10T17:56:00.000-07:00I was under the impression that Dianetics was aban...I was under the impression that Dianetics was abandoned for Scientology in the early 50s. <BR/><BR/>Extremely brief summary, as I understand it: Hubbard and a rich supporter started the Wichita Foundation, which was assigned the copyrights for Dianetics. Hubbard had a falling out with the money man, the foundation was losing money, so he bailed. He got the copyrights back later on and began using both.<BR/><BR/>I don't disagree that in current times, Scn doesn't attempt to use both separately. There is more to the history, though.<BR/><BR/>In fact, the longer history shows more weasel behavior demonstrated from a man with a long history of such.<BR/><BR/>My main source here is "A Piece of Blue Sky," but I've read similar in other sources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-31312786958029676752009-03-10T08:48:00.000-07:002009-03-10T08:48:00.000-07:00Good job, Bill. Dianetics and Scientology have one...Good job, Bill. Dianetics and Scientology have one important common denominator: both subjects are science fiction works written by a lying, fanciful, sci fi writer who figured the best way to make millions of dollars and get millions of people sucking up to him was to start his own religion. When you cut through all the BS, it's a simple story, really. Thank you for the great blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-1786843042455267922009-03-09T21:47:00.000-07:002009-03-09T21:47:00.000-07:00Re: Are Dianetic techniques hypnotic?I am not an e...Re: Are Dianetic techniques hypnotic?<BR/><BR/>I am not an expert on hypnosis, but a common description of hypnosis as "a wakeful state of focused attention and heightened suggestibility" certainly could easily apply to a Dianetics session. Certainly both focused attention and heightened suggestibility are both present in a Dianetics session.<BR/><BR/>Hubbard was well trained in hypnosis, and used self-hypnosis on himself extensively. He was not above utilizing aspects of hypnosis to "make Dianetics work".<BR/><BR/>Early Dianetics techniques included some hypnotic phrasing and instructions for "cancelling" any hypnotic effect.<BR/><BR/>Of course, not everyone is easily hypnotized, and I would imagine that different people's experiences with Dianetics would have to be different.<BR/><BR/>It may be noted that both Dianetics and Scientology techniques could be described as "a wakeful state of focused attention and heightened suggestibility" -- for what it's worth.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-73272125510806969112009-03-09T20:50:00.000-07:002009-03-09T20:50:00.000-07:00Are the dianetics exercises hypnotic in your opini...Are the dianetics exercises hypnotic in your opinion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-79796962007747203532009-03-09T17:27:00.000-07:002009-03-09T17:27:00.000-07:00Thanks! I appreciate the feedback, as always.Ther...Thanks! I appreciate the feedback, as always.<BR/><BR/>There have been some nice discussions recently. In case anyone missed it, <A HREF="http://askthescientologist.blogspot.com/2007/11/ask-question-no-im-serious-really-ask.html" REL="nofollow">Ask a Question</A> has been active of late.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-81249846118934080742009-03-09T17:24:00.000-07:002009-03-09T17:24:00.000-07:00Key piece of info, Bill. Good Job!Key piece of info, Bill. Good Job!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-564137121731836242009-03-09T16:30:00.000-07:002009-03-09T16:30:00.000-07:00Once again, Bill, a phenomenal commentary on the w...Once again, Bill, a phenomenal commentary on the ways scientology tries to weasel its way into every facet of society.<BR/><BR/>Your blog is a great spot to refer people who have a real desire to know how the cult ticks. Thanks for all your insight.<BR/><BR/>I should add that I've also really been enjoying your comments... quite entertaining of late. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-67308813890488070922009-03-09T08:58:00.000-07:002009-03-09T08:58:00.000-07:00Thanks for your comment and further information. ...Thanks for your comment and further information. I appreciate it!<BR/><BR/>People have to be asking:<BR/><BR/>What other religion simply <I>discards the whole concept of "religion"</I> when it interferes with business?<BR/><BR/>What other religion has so many "introductory channels" that <I>hide its religious nature</I>?<BR/><BR/>What other religion <I>denies that it <B>is</B> a religion</I> in most countries?<BR/><BR/>Only Scientology.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-89880025984444977942009-03-09T08:42:00.000-07:002009-03-09T08:42:00.000-07:00You're right. As an ex-staff member, I can confirm...You're right. As an ex-staff member, I can confirm that we knew this and knew it well. Dianetics is one of the "Intro Routes" into the orgs. It is a distinct and known route for getting new people into the Church. It is even listed as a specific introductory route on their "Bridge to Total Freedom" which is posted on the org walls. And as you said, the Dianetics name is cleverly used in other countries which do not take kindly to other religions. To give a specific example, during the earthquakes in Pakistan a few years ago the "Scientology Volunteer Ministers" were sent in there as Dianetics Volunteers. Same yellow t-shirts, same people, just a different non-religious label. It opened a lot of doors at the time, whereas going in there as "Volunteer Ministers" would have gotten them turned right back out of the country. Your important observation is very astute and can be easily understood by lay people outside of Scientology. I hope it helps many avoid being tricked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com