tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post5205583074243035259..comments2023-09-18T04:45:52.991-07:00Comments on Ask the Scientologist: Scientology Thought Control - Part 1Just Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-53021517292541181002014-03-23T16:31:01.961-07:002014-03-23T16:31:01.961-07:00I hate the word "entheta"
It's not ...I hate the word "entheta"<br /><br />It's not just news. Horror movies are "entheta". The subject of war, in film or a classroom is "entheta". "Anything that upsets my senibilities is 'entheta'" Disney movies on the other hand are wonderful. "They're so theta'. "So much ARC" That passes as a movie review to a true believer. "You should focus on happy movies instead of this entheta that apparently has no merit". It's the equivalent of a new age believer talking about positive or negative energy or a christian fundamentaliist calling something satanic. <br /><br />You know what? CALLING SOMETHING ENTHETA . is entheta. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02291595288054704348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-29710588098101712932013-10-14T15:16:31.881-07:002013-10-14T15:16:31.881-07:00Yes. However, "personal comfort" isn...Yes. However, "personal comfort" isn't the primary concern in Scientology. In fact, much of Scientology is unpleasant - going deeply into debt, spending every spare moment "on course", "in session" or out "promoting Scientology", and Scientology pushes guilt quite heavily ("The fate of every man, woman and child on this planet depends on what you do...").<br />The primary goal of filtering things by "theta" and "entheta" is to protect the <i>believer</i> from facts that would shake that belief.<br />BillJust Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-70447280867318228222013-10-12T05:54:56.780-07:002013-10-12T05:54:56.780-07:00it would seem that the unspoken goal of Scientolog...it would seem that the unspoken goal of Scientology is (if the above is true) to foster and nurture a way of being, almost totally based on the value of personal comfort above and beyond the already extremely difficult to impart responsibility on the part of individuals to place truth (timeless or temporary) before personal pleasure.<br /><br />that's an immense error in thinking but perhaps that was intentional in it's design...that sort of paradigm does result in the eventual destruction of those people who believe it...maybe that's on purpose...maybe Hubbard was trying to destroy people eager to hide from the truth? errors on this level can only implode given enough time..I suppose the question is how much damage they will do before then.<br /><br />thought provoking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-3647027177400581672013-10-04T12:50:33.388-07:002013-10-04T12:50:33.388-07:00Um... There are no such things as "entheta wa...Um... There are no such things as "entheta waves" here in the real world. As they don't exist, they can't "damage your mind, body and make your case worse".<br />I understand that, according to Scientology, all the wonderful and miraculous "gains" to be had from Scientology are <i>instantly destroyed</i> if one comes in contact with "entheta".<br /><br />Outside of Scientology, people cope with bad news every day, and survive.<br /><br />Inside of Scientology, "entheta" will utterly destroy all Scientology gains, abilities and powers. Sounds like Scientology just makes people weaker -- and that is true.<br /><br />But my point was not that. My point was that Scientologists are trained to accept "theta" and reject "entheta" without regard to facts or truth -- and that is thought control.<br /><br />By the way, there is no such thing as "entheta waves" either inside or outside of Scientology.<br /><br />BillJust Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-29656036441159894312013-10-04T08:54:49.491-07:002013-10-04T08:54:49.491-07:00Okay you have a being, and you are hurt because of...Okay you have a being, and you are hurt because of entheta waves, that damage your mind, body and make your case worse. I'm not a scientologist by practice in any formal way, but why would a person attempt for any reason to continue this chanting about "you think you are saying something that might work to help people, but HEY YOU its YOUR opinion only, but no no, it dosen't apply to me?" Clearly there's a problem here - especially a group mind problem - which last time I checked, isn't exactly working for our planet or the human race. No one gets help, and families are destroyed far worse outside of Scientology - do you think Hitler was a Scientologist too?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-56960818828258753182009-01-22T07:59:00.000-08:002009-01-22T07:59:00.000-08:00Perhaps "have to" is too strong. Via Scientology ...Perhaps "have to" is too strong. Via Scientology training, a Scientologist is programmed to accept theta about Scientology and reject entheta about it.<BR/><BR/>However, theoretically, they <I>could</I> doubt your theta lie (depending on what they already knew and whether you were previously considered a source of entheta), but, yes, they <I>would</I> most likely accept it -- it's "theta" and therefore good.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-55599432807662070192009-01-22T00:49:00.000-08:002009-01-22T00:49:00.000-08:00Do Scientologists have to accept theta and refuse ...Do Scientologists have to accept theta and refuse entheta from ANYONE or just when it comes from church management or other Scientologists?<BR/><BR/>For example, if i told a Scientologist a theta lie, like that the CoS is building 10 new IdealOrgs in Germany, would he have to accept it as truth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-19513453204309961282009-01-12T23:08:00.000-08:002009-01-12T23:08:00.000-08:00I'm sorry, I thought this was clear in context. I...I'm sorry, I thought this was clear in context. It is "entheta" when it is negative information <I>about Scientology, Hubbard or Miscavige</I>. It is "theta" when it is positive information about those subjects.<BR/><BR/>Miscavige will often spin bad news about the world into "positive" news about Scientology -- and that makes it "theta". See?Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-41909004171872864232009-01-12T20:06:00.000-08:002009-01-12T20:06:00.000-08:00This is an interesting idea to be sure, but for no...This is an interesting idea to be sure, but for now it is only you saying it is TRUE. This is the same has Hubbard saying that something is TRUE. You have as much support here as Hubbard has for his ideas. It sounds good on the surface. Do you have any experience where you presented a Scientologist with entheta that wasn't about Scientology that was instantly rejected? If we just look at this on a surface level. Scientology seems to accept the idea that drug use has negative social consequences (entheta) and they don't reject it. Scientologist's have seen entheta in the form of natural disaster and the problems it creates (entheta.) How does this fit with your analysis?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-81579758589586455472008-12-28T18:24:00.000-08:002008-12-28T18:24:00.000-08:00Well, that is certainly an interesting idea.I'd be...Well, that is certainly an interesting idea.<BR/><BR/>I'd be interested in seeing what kind of "theta" that would be.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-13964936193811981932008-12-28T14:52:00.000-08:002008-12-28T14:52:00.000-08:00Thanks so much for explaining "entheta", I've been...Thanks so much for explaining "entheta", I've been wondering about that one. <BR/> <BR/>OK so we've all been slowly adapting our communications around the fact that Scientologists instantly reject anything entheta. It's a challenging barrier, but we're like a swarm of bees, so all we need is tiny cracks to get us all through. <BR/> <BR/>But your post gives me an idea of a whole different sort of strategy. Do Scientologists truly <I>have</I> to accept theta data? Is there any concept of or defenses against <I>perverse</I> theta data? What I'm getting at is: Could we create trojan horse theta, which seems positive enough to get in the door but also has hidden dimensions?Only Love Can Do Thathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12626090543097845247noreply@blogger.com