tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post7410652557568564691..comments2023-09-18T04:45:52.991-07:00Comments on Ask the Scientologist: Scientology's Internet TrollsJust Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-88796701515388523112008-08-12T07:42:00.000-07:002008-08-12T07:42:00.000-07:00Dear Virginia,Do not spam. Your comment had nothin...Dear Virginia,<BR/>Do not spam. Your comment had <I>nothing</I> to do with this discussion, so I rejected it.<BR/><BR/>I would love to have you post something <I>on topic</I>, but I know you won't. You are a Scientologist, so you <I>can't</I> talk about Scientology.<BR/><BR/>When you wake up, there are lots of people out here who will help you.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-31891362833395314352008-07-25T15:57:00.000-07:002008-07-25T15:57:00.000-07:00Actually, I covered the whole "cult" thing in anot...Actually, I covered the whole "cult" thing in another post. There's a link to that post. The whole "cult" dictionary definition thing can be vague and unsatisfactory. Thanks for your input.<BR/><BR/>As for disagreement and calling someone "OSA". On this blog, I welcome disagreements, as it can make for a good discussion. I do <I>not</I> "immediately label as troll" any dissent. My initial tendency is to treat the person as misinformed and worth debating. However, it usually ends up with the Scientologist being rather ugly and trollish.<BR/><BR/>There is a reason for this. Scientologists are <I>not allowed</I> to surf the Internet. They are <I>not allowed</I> to read this stuff. They are <I>certainly</I> not allowed to actually communicate to such "Suppressives". If some public Scientologist shows up on most discussions and reads that stuff, then communicates, oh boy, it's going to cost them tens thousands of dollars and hours of amends to get <I>that</I> straight with the church!<BR/><BR/>The <I>only</I> exception to this is OSA. They are Scientologists who are assigned to this dirty job.<BR/><BR/>The job they are assigned to do is to confuse, upset, and generally suppress discussion about Scientology. Their job is <I>not</I> to inform or discuss.<BR/><BR/>So, if someone is on the Internet, attempting to sell the Scientology line, it's a pretty sure thing they're OSA. Not 100%, but pretty sure.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-42763771786178527472008-07-25T14:44:00.000-07:002008-07-25T14:44:00.000-07:00What if it happens to be someone who may have some...What if it happens to be someone who may have some disagreements with what you post.<BR/><BR/>For example your blog is supposedly called "Ask the Scientologist"<BR/><BR/>Yet it seems when an actual Scientologist responds to your post with any dissent of opinion they are immediately labeled a "troll" and it is assumed that they must be working for "OSA".<BR/><BR/>I find this very similar to the way the Church now currently labels anyone who disagrees with Miscavige a "SP".<BR/><BR/>Another point on cults. What follows is the correct definition of cult from the Merriam-Webster:<BR/><BR/>noun<BR/>a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object : the cult of St. Olaf.<BR/>• a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister : a network of Satan-worshiping cults.<BR/>• a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing : a cult of personality surrounding the leaders.<BR/>• [usu. as adj. ] a person or thing that is popular or fashionable, esp. among a particular section of society : a cult film.<BR/>DERIVATIVES<BR/>cultic |-tik| adjective<BR/>cultish adjective<BR/>cultishness noun<BR/>cultism |-ˌtizəm| noun<BR/>cultist |-tist| noun<BR/>ORIGIN early 17th cent.(originally denoting homage paid to a divinity): from French culte or Latin cultus ‘worship,’ from cult- ‘inhabited, cultivated, worshiped,’ from the verb colere.<BR/><BR/>As you can see the definition doesn't have to necessarily apply to a sect it could apply more broadly to any organization or group that has a certain mindset.<BR/><BR/>A very good example is Victor Marchetti and John Mark's book "The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-48901109327555014112008-07-07T07:54:00.000-07:002008-07-07T07:54:00.000-07:00Scientologists are not allowed to visit sites like...Scientologists are <I>not allowed</I> to visit sites like Radar. It will "enturbulate" them, at which point they are "in ethics trouble" and must pay tens of thousands of dollars for "ethics handling".<BR/><BR/>There are specific Scientologists who are assigned to troll the Internet and "handle" sites like Radar. These are from OSA. They are Sea Org. They get weekly auditing to clean them up from all the horrible things they have to endure on that job.<BR/><BR/>Unless you <I>totally</I> agree with Scientology, you <I>cannot</I> talk to a regular Scientologist -- it's just too expensive for them to do so.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-88863205795896234082008-07-06T23:58:00.000-07:002008-07-06T23:58:00.000-07:00I was having an argument with a scientologist here...I was having an argument with a scientologist here (http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/06/anonymous-protests-scientology-peace-and-quiet-ensues.php) and it was quite an experience. I should have been more aggressive but I wanted to play nice. I eventually figured out it was pointless, but kept on arguing just for the hell of it. it didn't occur to me that it could be someone from OSA, and if it is, that would make a lot of sense. what do you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-7804369268925084382008-07-05T09:02:00.000-07:002008-07-05T09:02:00.000-07:00Yeah? I guess they do if they're trying to smear ...Yeah? I guess they do if they're trying to smear someone. Then sometimes they use something like "TruthSayer" or "FreeSpirit" LOL! As if that made it so ...<BR/><BR/>But that really <I>isn't</I> an "always". I think they are most often anonymous, which <I>is</I> a bit ironic.<BR/><BR/>You really can't tell OSA by their nicks, but you <I>can</I> detect by their actions. They aren't very creative.Just Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700571144527474381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588150109003847843.post-87000577938552630012008-07-05T08:18:00.000-07:002008-07-05T08:18:00.000-07:00and they always use lame names like ToryluvLRH or ...and they always use lame names like ToryluvLRH or somthing stupid like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com